James Martin Posted August 11, 2012 Report Posted August 11, 2012 Next week's episodes... Monday (1998): The One With The Nashes & Diner Hold Up Tuesday (1999): Ailsa Shoots Alf & Marilyn Gives Birth Wednesday (2000): Gypsy's Near Death & Ailsa's Death Thursday (2001): London Episode (Yawwwwwwwwn) & Will Proposes Friday (2002): Will and Gypsy's Exit & The Mirigini Disaster Surprised they didn't shortlist the Shropshire episode for 1998.
James Martin Posted August 11, 2012 Report Posted August 11, 2012 Quick ratings update for you... Monday (1993) 185k/169k Tuesday (1994) 135k/137k Wednesday (1995) 136k/132k Thursday (1996) 164k/153k
Ryan Posted August 11, 2012 Report Posted August 11, 2012 Yes they certainly do stand out as a short-lived set, I'd completely forgotten about the alternate Sam and Chloe shots. The ordering and timing in general all seems completely different (and a bit off) too. Yeah I always remember Casey and Aaron being towards the end of the credits, not half way through. I don't remember the sad Pippa credits
beau_t Posted August 11, 2012 Report Posted August 11, 2012 Thanks Ryan. I had forgotten about Angel's solo-shot as well. Next week's episodes... Monday (1998): The One With The Nashes & Diner Hold Up Tuesday (1999): Ailsa Shoots Alf & Marilyn Gives Birth Wednesday (2000): Gypsy's Near Death & Ailsa's Death Thursday (2001): London Episode (Yawwwwwwwwn) & Will Proposes Friday (2002): Will and Gypsy's Exit & The Mirigini Disaster Surprised they didn't shortlist the Shropshire episode for 1998. Nice to see so many Ailsa episodes in these specials. I always liked her but never realised she was so popular. It's strange though because the 1998 Diner Hold Up and 1999 Ailsa Shoots Alf are the beginning and ending of the same storyline (another Ailsa breakdown). Not that I'm complaining but they could have chosen something else for 1998 like, as James Martin says, the Shropshire episode. Or personally, even though it was a bit of a let down, I'd like to see Pippa's final episode again.
Blaxland 89 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Posted August 11, 2012 Thanks Ryan. I had forgotten about Angel's solo-shot as well. Next week's episodes... Monday (1998): The One With The Nashes & Diner Hold Up Tuesday (1999): Ailsa Shoots Alf & Marilyn Gives Birth Wednesday (2000): Gypsy's Near Death & Ailsa's Death Thursday (2001): London Episode (Yawwwwwwwwn) & Will Proposes Friday (2002): Will and Gypsy's Exit & The Mirigini Disaster Surprised they didn't shortlist the Shropshire episode for 1998. Nice to see so many Ailsa episodes in these specials. I always liked her but never realised she was so popular. It's strange though because the 1998 Diner Hold Up and 1999 Ailsa Shoots Alf are the beginning and ending of the same storyline (another Ailsa breakdown). Not that I'm complaining but they could have chosen something else for 1998 like, as James Martin says, the Shropshire episode. Or personally, even though it was a bit of a let down, I'd like to see Pippa's final episode again. Lachie's final episode from 1998 was brilliantly written and acted. Also would have liked to have seen a bit more of Vinnie in the late 90s eps. Like the special double date episode.
Red Ranger 1 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Posted August 11, 2012 Rebecca's amnesia about the other side of the family, take two.Assuming I haven't forgotten something I saw yesterday(should really put the video on and check), Rebecca mentions her brother, Isobel says "I've got another grandchild?" and Rebecca says "Yeah, there were two", before going on to explain what happened to Alan and Bobby.So, you could argue that adding "Oh and your daughter had two children, one of whom died, as well" would be a bit of a segue but it does make them both seem a bit myopic.We saw Casey in a shot with Stephanie in that episode, they seem to have changed to the "walking down the beach" shot after she died.I was mentioning elsewhere that Chloe didn't seem to get onto the credits until the revamp in 1996 and Selina didn't make it on until the beginning of 1995, when they'd both been around for months.It seems they then went the other way and every change they seemed to replace a load of existing shots and jig characters around when they didn't need to. So, commune fire.Seriously, how the hell did Bennett get out of that?Shame no-one thought to ask him until after he was dead, again.(His explanation to Selina was so vague as to be non-existent.)Some quite dramatic moments in there and Joey getting to be a hero, even if Jesse did get most of the credit.Sally's overnight transformation into a complete cow who ends up stealing exam papers and sleeping with Heath Ledger...As she'd say years later, her moments of rebellion weren't as blatant as some people but I did go through a rare period of not liking her around that point.Casey being friendzoned by Liam, one of many potential pairings around that time I'd like to have seen more of.It was obvious there was someone sneaking around the bait shot but I had no idea who it was so it was a complete shock when Aaron turned up at the end. Online episode:Another quite ordinary one and another one that I thus rather enjoyed.I'm feeling as though I either remember something perfectly or don't remember it at all in these episodes:I recall Don's exasperated reactions to the ageing auditionee("I thought I wasn't pushing it saying I was twenty-nine...")and that penny in the air/penny drops bit at the end really well.Alf's "No-one's allowed in here wearing a blue sleeveless flanell shirt on a Wednesday afternoon" is another moment that sticks in the mind.Didn't realise we were going to see Sally's gambling phase, which I completely forgot about until it was mentioned in a discussion round about the time she left.Early Justine, back in the days when she made Tiegan look like the responsible one.Actually, her protecting Sam from Danny was pretty much the turning point for her character.(Well, he's credited as Danny but everyone seems to call him Denny.)Another scene that got hacked by ITV:The edit cuts away when Danny turns away and gets that look on his face, just before he turns and hits him(and we didn't see the blow land anyway!), then we see Sam injured at the start of the next episode. Re:Next week's episode.After going "Oh no, not the London trip again...", I double checked and realised it's actually one of the ones that doesn't crop up much, just before the two that do, that focuses on the trip rather than Marilyn's brief return.Even though this week sees the transition from ITV to Channel 5 episodes, I'm rather looking forward to seeing what should have been the last appearance of Will and Gypsy again, it was a disappointment when the Five Life showings stopped just before we got to their reunion.
beau_t Posted August 11, 2012 Report Posted August 11, 2012 Rebecca's amnesia about the other side of her family, take three. I am sure it would have detracted from the point of the scene (which was Isobel finding out Don had lost two children and she hadn't been there for him, which is why the scene ends at that point), for Rebecca to then mention Lucinda and David, characters who some wouldn't remember, and would then start thinking "Who were they? Oh yeah that's right, the dark haired woman who lived with Donald, and that man played by Guy Pearce who got Sophie pregnant. What happened to him? Oh that's right he died in a car crash caused by Karen. Whatever happened to Karen..? Oh yeah I remember..." thus completely ruining the intended purpose of that scene. As I said, there's no reason to believe Rebecca didn't fill Isobel in on the rest of the family offscreen. We only saw a snippet of their conversation, but they were out walking for a while, they must have talked about more than we saw. I'm all for continuity where it fits and doesn't detract from the story. I'm the first to wonder why Lucinda seemed to be forgotten about from the Home and Away history books after she left. I even made a topic about that very thing here. This scene, had it been re-worded, may have been the perfect time to mention her and David. But the way it was worded left no room for them, especially considering what the actual point of the scene was and the point it was supposed to end on. But if you didn't quite get, or warm to, the character of Isobel, it's possible you don't see the significance of that.
Red Ranger 1 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Posted August 11, 2012 I do understand the significance of the scene and I fully understand why it played out the way it did.And I agree Rebecca may well have filled her in on the rest of it off screen, in fact she almost certainly did because shortly afterwards(in a later episode)Isobel is fully briefed on what happened between Donald and Morag.I'm actually quite happy to ignore the apparent discontinuity but the pedantic in me feels obliged to point out what's actually said.The real problem is the "I've got another grandchild?" line.If she'd said "Donald has a son?" or "Donald has other children?", then Rebecca's response would be fine but the fact that she explicitly refers to grandchildren and Rebecca explicitly replies that there were only two others(rather than saying "Dad had two others" or something similar)makes the exchange rather awkward.
c120701 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Posted August 11, 2012 I do understand the significance of the scene and I fully understand why it played out the way it did.And I agree Rebecca may well have filled her in on the rest of it off screen, in fact she almost certainly did because shortly afterwards(in a later episode)Isobel is fully briefed on what happened between Donald and Morag.I'm actually quite happy to ignore the apparent discontinuity but the pedantic in me feels obliged to point out what's actually said.The real problem is the "I've got another grandchild?" line.If she'd said "Donald has a son?" or "Donald has other children?", then Rebecca's response would be fine but the fact that she explicitly refers to grandchildren and Rebecca explicitly replies that there were only two others(rather than saying "Dad had two others" or something similar)makes the exchange rather awkward. Perhaps Rebecca and Isobel had actually discussed Donald's siblings on the way from the house to where we saw them and so had already covered Lucinda and David, thus making the "I've got another grandchild?" line perfectly acceptable.
c120701 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Posted August 11, 2012 Going back to the credits, in the 1997 ones were some of the shots always that stretched? Curtis for example and also Casey. I'd forgotten they'd cut the theme that much too - I'd remembered that they'd taken out "Let me be the one..." but to cut the whole intro and going straight into "You know we belong together" was always a bit rushed - I think I probably thought it was ITV going into the show late.
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