The Couples Votes:What do you reckon?

[Frankie]

Now, to the countless posts above. Stop having opinions!! Ideas, thoughts, feelings - things that can flow and change freely without having to result to WW3 (or WW4 - are we already in WW3...?). Opinions are so... icky.

I agree that the J&M summary was a little cruel. Whether you like them or not... might have been nice to have a hint of niceness for their fans. (Did I mention I was very happy with the Robbie and Kim one?? Probably sarcastic, but who cares ?) I did like the marmite comment though. (Here after referred to as "vegimite.") I think it described my feelings for them perfectly.

I hate vegimite. Everyone else seems to love it. Sometimes I feel isolated and angry - "WHY can no one else see the glory that is peanut butter and honey!?" I say. "WHY must they forever be going on about that disgusting axle grease-like substance as if sliced bread was only ever invented to give vegimite a place to be spread!!" But then, some people don't understand peanut butter and honey... They think I'm a freak for liking such an odd combination. They laugh and ridicule me. They call it unnatural. "If God intended peanut butter and honey to be together, he'd have put them in the same jar!"... It's a pain I have to live with every day.

...honey? ...peanut butter and banana ...now that really IS a perfect combo

[burr]

I’d have to agree re: charges of bias. I’m all for witty remarks and personal insights, but slagging off couples you don’t like and fawning over the ones you do seems pretty pointless. Why conduct the poll in the first place? You may as well just write a summary of your favourite couples and be done with it. And this is not a reference to J and M solely. It happened throughout the pole and it irritated me. It felt like Goebbels in reverse.

[Guest]

I don't mean to be nasty or offenvise but I think everyone (most) and including myself knew that Jack and Martha bond to be number one!! lol but yeh it's good to see Robbie and Tasha in the top 10 list!!

[Pierced Musie]

Totally off the subject, has anyone else noted that no.36 says Peter and Jesse, did I totally miss this coupling or is it a joke?

Please help!!!!

I believe that falls into the wonderful realm of "subtext." They weren't a couple, but some viewers thought that they displayed feelings for each other. Or as is my understanding.

Now, to the countless posts above. Stop having opinions!! Ideas, thoughts, feelings - things that can flow and change freely without having to result to WW3 (or WW4 - are we already in WW3...?). Opinions are so... icky.

1. WW3 has been and gone. That was the Spuffy vs Bangel war of 2003, back in that little fandom called Buffy. Personally I was always rooting for Faith to waltz in a snatch Buffy away from Spike and Angel.

2. Peter and Jesse jumped from subtext to text within the space of about 15 minutes. I don't know how it happened and I don't know why but it was just there. Hell, even other people who don't see subtext actually saw something there.

[Marieh]

I wonder if I voted in the worst character poll

I want a re-match, Sally and Flynn got their trophy stolen from, well them

[-Jade-]

No they didn't. I personally agree that it would have been nice for Sally and Flynn to win. But J&M won fair and square - they did get a higher number of points you know.

[TabbyCool]

I find it quite amusing that people are getting bothered about the summary for J&M, or any of the couples in the poll for that matter. Ryan and Liz wrote the summaries, and if they had to write a summary for a couple that, in their opinion, had no spark, no chemistry and no redeeming features whatsoever, what were they meant to write? It's difficult to write something positive or interesting about something you find to be utterly bland.

[Pierced Musie]

.... Years from now, when the great grandchildren ask to hear the story of WW4, we can all tell them that it broke out because of two people.

Ryan & Liz.

[dsingles]

Sorry maybe it's just me but I don't understand all this sutext stuff but there you go. As for joke couples virtually everyone could be up for those if it's about characters spending time together. After lasts night UK episode I could quite easily kill Martha and Jack, her for being such a dizzy idiot sleeping with a stranger and him for being such a wet weekend. So I'd now vote for Peter and Jesse making a great couple at least they are both incredibly sexy, shady men.

Oh dear I think I am really losing it.

[Pierced Musie]

Subtext is... is what some of us fans crave. For many, the thrill of seeing something that is underneath the text, or rather on top of the text, is what keeps us watching.

I'll give an example by using Jack and Martha.

Forget they were together and go back to the beginning, with there hate. Every scene between them would be filled with hateful words and a hell of alot of snark. But to the people who see the chemistry between them, they would read between the lines.

The age old classic 'if she hits you, it means she likes you' would be your first thought.

And that, my friend, is subtext. You would be reading between the lines and seeing something you like and want, but would never have.

Which is why subtext is mostly associated with slash and femslash. If you have two characters of the same sex, who just can do nothing but have chemistry with each other, then many viewers pick up on this.

I get the feeling it comes natural to female actors but there are many male actors these days who realize that they can use this to their advantage. Especially if they are going to be playing evil characters.

*stops babbling*

*realizes that she is probably far away from everyone elses view on subtext*

Edited at Add: One thing I failed to mention is that chemistry can happen because of multiple ways. 1. The actors just click 2. The script is ****ing amazing 2. One of the actors has chemistry with almost anything (see Michael Rosenbaum & Chris Meloni for examples of this).