Latest UK Episode Discussion (2006-2017 Seasons)

[vale4eva]

UH! Marthas such a tart, she would have totally slept with Ash if he hadnt have pushed her away. Whats the deal with her jumping into bed on the first date!

And Martha saying ' atleast hes got some imagination', when Alf said hes trying a bit hard isnt he, in reference to the flowers. Since when is giving a girl flowers having a great imagination! When Jack sent Martha flowers she wasnt grateful at all!

She annoys me no end!

Loved all the rehab scenes, they dont usually show things like that so it was good to see.

I like Jack and Sams relationship, they seem to have a great friendship forming

Peter and Amanda are starting to fall for eachother it apears, i think theyd be quite good together.

And Tonys so careing! But god, he shouldnt be worrying about Martha! She doesnt deserve his worry

[Noni]

And Martha saying ' atleast hes got some imagination', when Alf said hes trying a bit hard isnt he, in reference to the flowers. Since when is giving a girl flowers having a great imagination! When Jack sent Martha flowers she wasnt grateful at all!

That's what I thought!

I can't figure out who's more annoying, Martha or Ash. God Ash is such a dork. Am I the only one who doesn't find him funny.

Sam on the other hand rocks! I really like her. I hope she stays on as a proper cast member.

I know this is really childish of me, but I thought what Drew did was classic

[Robina Fox]

It sometimes seems that soaps are on a mission to guilt young mothers into keeping their babies. It's not just when someone has a baby, like Lee this week, but every time someone has had a baby adopted in the past, they turn up demanding answers and blaming their mother. Too many children now are being brought up by incapable mothers who are caught in a poverty trap (of course in the soaps they almost always turn out to be excellent mothers who get lots of support from the people around them). And also settled and competent couples who cannot have their own children cannot find babies to adopt. The knocking adoption gets in soaps is quite shocking; adoptive parents are often rejected as soon as the adopted child finds their "real" parents. It must really discourage people from adopting.

Of course there are many good single mothers, but I really object to the amount of pressure that is put on frightened girls who can't cope. How often do they lose out in education, employment and relationships? How often will their children end up in trouble or in care?

[Jess]

I didn't like Lee last time around and I certainly don't like her now. Her storyline lacks imagination. It was blindingly obvious that Dane was gonna turn up and say he didn't want her to keep the baby and that the Summer Bay would pressurise her into keeping it. And then Rachel bonds with the baby. Ooh...big shock. I'm not saying that I want there to be high-octane drama every episode, just that Lee seems a bit pointless. She's the typical soap teenage mum - people pressurising her to get rid of the baby and just being totally clueless. If she was old enough to have consensual sex, then surely she's old enough to raise a baby without being totally daft about it all. Yeah, it must be a big shock and very difficult to be a teen mum, but some people manage it successfully and I just don't feel that this is portrayed on soaps. On a slightly more, err, aesthetic level her hair is still as awful as ever!

Martha/Jack are making me tear my hair out! I hated them together and, if it's possible, I hate them even more when they're apart. Martha is being a total idiot. She slept with a random stranger after the first date. Yeah, she was drunk...blah, blah, blah...but still! And she thinks that Ash is the best thing since sliced bread. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Ash splitting Martha and Jack up, but I think it would've been more interesting if her new 'gentleman friend' had either been a) an established Bay resident or b) someone nicer and someone who wasn't quite such an obvious choice. Is it just me or was it so obvious when Ash walked into Noah's that they were gonna get together? It would've been far more effective, IMO, to let the storyline build up over time, instead of this. It's the whole Jack/Martha "destined to be" #2... But yeah, maybe it's the excitement of new lust, but she seems to be seeing everything that Ash does through rose-tinted glasses. She didn't like it when Jack sent her flowers, yet it's the most perfect thing now Ashton's done it. [sarcasm] And she also annoys me 'cos Tony's worrying about her when she totally isn't worth it. She's a grown woman; let her make her own mistakes.

I'm slightly more sympathetic to Jack/Sam. I like how their friendship is developing. Jack seems to be handling his new relationship a lot better than Martha. It was a nice touch how we got to see Jack in the pool doing his hydrotherapy; it made it seem more real and believable, somehow.

Even though I ranted above how it was way too obvious that Martha and Ash were gonna get together, I'm lovin' Brad and Sally at the moment. They're just so cute together. It's slightly cliched that they've both lost partners to cancer, but, nevertheless, they make a good potential couple. It'll be interesting to see what effect the gang has on their fledgling romance now that the threats against them are getting more serious.

And, oh yes, Ric + Maddie =

Ric + Maddie + interfering Beth =

That's all I'm saying on the matter.

[vale4eva]

God Ash is such a dork. Am I the only one who doesn't find him funny.

Sam on the other hand rocks! I really like her. I hope she stays on as a proper cast member.

I know this is really childish of me, but I thought what Drew did was classic

I find him funny! But I laugh at him! not with him, If you no what i mean.

I mean, what the hell was he wearing tonight! If Jack had gone dressed like that to a date she would have screamed at him! But nooooo, Ashton seems to have a get outa jail free card where Marthas concerned! Plus i hate the way shes making everything he does into something absolutley amazing. I find that rather desperate!

Martha grow up and get some brains girly!

Sam is sweet, shes really careing and gentle. Plus i love her hair! Curly hair can look totally messey but shes got some quality curls there!

[carmelle]

Drew is such a brat, it is really annoying me the way he thinks he is so innocent in all of this, he is to blame just as much as Amanda. I remember it being him that pushed and stalked Amanda into being with him. At least Amanda admits what she has done.

And i'm not sure to what extent I believe Amanda's mansion as the ideal detox centre...and if Peter's moving in there, wouldn't Ryan know?

Peter's excuse as to why he's not going to be around = a fishing trip, now that sure was a hobby that we never knew about, and here I was thinking that it was only Alf that loved fishing, come on people at least make it believable.

I like Ash, and we know from Tony's reaction that there is more to Ash than what we see, but this only makes me dislike Martha even more. She thinks that Ash sending her flowers is him being imaginative but when Jack sent her flowers she was anything but amused, what is wrong with her?

And Jack and Sam...i'm not liking where this is going. Don't get me wrong, Jack and Martha together was very annoying, but what's more annoying than them not being together is playing happy couples with other people, and dragging the newbies down with them!!! I don't understand why we can't see Jack stay single for a while.

[Shaun.]

And i'm not sure to what extent I believe Amanda's mansion as the ideal detox centre...and if Peter's moving in there, wouldn't Ryan know?

That's what I thought, although you never see Ryan there that much, he must always be with Dan and Leah or something. On the topic of the 'mansion', all we ever see is a small-ish sitting room and a small-ish kitchen. It doesn't look like much of a mansion and I assume there is two bedrooms which would be small judging from what we have seen inside the house. Unless it's more than two storeys or something...

[vale4eva]

And Jack and Sam...i'm not liking where this is going. Don't get me wrong, Jack and Martha together was very annoying, but what's more annoying than them not being together is playing happy couples with other people, and dragging the newbies down with them!!! I don't understand why we can't see Jack stay single for a while.

Hold your horses! Jack and Sam arent even together yet!

And you cant put Jack in the same league as Martha on dating other people! Marthas got very little sense and will jump into bed with the first dude that offers her a drink, whereas Jack would take things slow i recon.

My opinion of Martha went rapidly down after about 1 month of them being married! She turned into a monster and now shes just a sleeperounder! I bet she'd go with anyone who handed it to her on a plate! And it wouldnt have to be a porcelain plate, i bet she'd take plastic!

Golly, i cant believe im saying this about Martha!

Past Martha i love! Martha now = big no no!

[Shaun.]

Jack and Sam = no.

I don't think they'd make a good couple.

[vale4eva]

Jack and Sam = no.

I don't think they'd make a good couple.

Why?